[Pharmwaste] Hand sanitizers

Paul DeLeo PDeLeo at sdahq.org
Fri Oct 16 08:42:32 EDT 2009


Could you provide citations of the work that has found that triclosan and triclocarban destroy the reproductive systems of fish and other aquatic life?  I am not familiar with it.


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From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Sue Dayton
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:08 AM
To: 'Suhr, Marcus W.'; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Hand sanitizers


You raise some very good questions, and additionally, there are other concerns. 

I am attaching an article on triclocarbon, a common ingredient in hand sanitizers (antibacterial soaps) used in both hospitals and in homes.
Triclocarbon is an endocrine disrupting compound and is showing up in rivers and streams, and in sewage sludge being spread on farmlands. It is not regulated, tested for or removed during the wastewater process. Triclocarbon and its cousin, triclosan, have been found to destroy the reproductive systems of fish and other aquatic life. 


Sue Dayton
Blue Ridge Environmental Defense League
North Carolina Healthy Communities Program PO BOX 44 Saxapahaw, NC 27340
(336) 525-2003
sdayton at swcp.com

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
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-----Original Message-----
From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Suhr, Marcus W.
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 3:57 PM
To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: [Pharmwaste] Hand sanitizers

Just had Medline presentation here at the hospital about hand hygiene.
Discussed two studies (2001, and 2008) about there not being a statistical significance of the benefit of hand sanitizers with alcohol in them.  Why then, are they pushing so hard for these sanitizers?

My concerns coming from occupational safety are;

1) the alcohol content (and corresponding flash point) in these items make them a class IC flammable substance thereby restricting the volume and quantities that can be hosted in any one area. (Fire Code)
2) disposal of unused quantities of alcohol sanitizer should either be
D001 RCRA waste, or D003 (foam canisters) and is probably not happening.
3) has permeation testing been done between alcohol sanitizers and latex gloves when used in conjunction?

When I asked about non-hazardous alternatives to alcohol, medline rep mentioned BZK as a possible, but less desirable ingredient.  Does anyone have experience with BZK or using BZK based sanitizers?  What about any other sanitizer products that are non-hazardous, or at least non-flammable?

Marcus Suhr, CSP
Industrial Hygienist
Christiana Care Health Services
Occupational Safety Department, Office L840J
4755 Ogletown-Stanton Road
Newark, DE 19718
302-733-3787 (office)
302-573-7662 (pager)
302-733-3771 (fax)
MSuhr at christianacare.org

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