shrug-l: Re: Google imagery accuracy

Kyle Schaper kyleschaper at gmail.com
Fri Feb 10 11:23:02 EST 2012


Here is another example of why GIS should not be replaced with only Google
services: http://g.co/maps/yfhun

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On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:24 PM, <shrug-l-request at lists.dep.state.fl.us>wrote:

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> To: "'SHRUG'" <shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
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> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 14:24:20 -0500
> Subject: RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under
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> Jacob makes an excellent point.  I hear of a lot of pressure for groups
> and individuals who want to replace GIS with Google.   They just don’t know
> that they are going to receive in turn for their cost savings.   ****
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> Regards,****
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> *Jim Robeson*
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> *James M. Robeson*
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> *From:* shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:
> shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] *On Behalf Of *Jacob Coble
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 01, 2012 1:33 PM
> *To:* Bendis, Joe; Jim at gpserv.com; SHRUG; Sandell, Keith
> *Subject:* RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under****
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> Seriously, maybe whenever anyone runs across something this bad in Google,
> they should share it with this group. We could have a few examples to use
> whenever a bean counter says, "We don't need GIS, Google is good enough."
> Can you imagine several more examples like the one Joe sent? An accurate
> GIS map made with good local data vs. a flawed Google map of the same area.
> ****
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>  ****
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> Maybe this could be a S.H.R.U.G. poster contest - each poster would
> feature a quality GIS map on one half and an inaccurate Google map of the
> same area on the other half. What if we had several such posters, the PDF
> files could be shared. Anytime people needed to describe to the powers that
> be the value of their GIS program, they could print these posters and show
> them (even if the poster is not of their locality - the point is to show
> that Google is not sufficient for many uses). And it is not only imagery
> problems - we all have seen problems in the Google streets vs. local data.
> A picture is worth a thousand words.
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> ****
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>  ****
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>
> *Jacob Coble, GISP*****
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> >>> "Joe Bendis" <jbendis at sgrc.us> 2/1/2012 1:14 PM >>>****
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> An NEVER try to navigate “Local” waters either Jim (Lanark Village) just
> south of Tallahassee, FL.****
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> The island locally know as Bird Island or Lanark Reef is almost completely
> missing from Google ****
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> [image: GoogleEarth_Image.jpg]****
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> Same area with Bing from a GIS project Basemap****
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> [image: lanarkreef.jpg]****
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> *Joseph E. Bendis***
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> *From:* shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:
> shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] *On Behalf Of *Keith Sandell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:59 PM
> *To:* Jim at gpserv.com; SHRUG
> *Subject:* RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under****
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> Have they sued Google yet for sinking their ships? ****
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> Because as we all know Google is always “right” and that’s why we don’t
> need GIS people. (you can’t hear the extreme sarcasm in my voice, but it’s
> there trust me)****
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> Reminds me of a time when a Google sales person was pitching some of their
> products to me and repeatedly told me that with “our” products you don’t
> need GIS people, yea sign me up for that…****
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> Good example to keep around the next time management or politicians say,
> “Why do we need you, we have Google!”****
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> They just might sink you ship!****
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> Thanks for sharing Jim.****
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> *Keith Sandell, MBA*
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> *From:* shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us [mailto:
> shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] *On Behalf Of *Jim Robeson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:37 PM
> *To:* 'SHRUG'
> *Subject:* shrug-l: New under water ships down under****
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> Interesting things afoot in Sydney harbor.  The Australians have new
> submergible ships.     That is how it appears in Google Earth.  Nice job
> guys!!!  Thought The GIS community might find this humorous.  ****
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> Regards,****
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> *Jim Robeson*
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