shrug-l: RE: Lat/Long Tool

Jim Robeson Jim at
Thu Jun 12 09:17:47 EDT 2014

GPS, clearly is not.  In the moving of data back and forth from system to
system you do get rounding.  Over the years positional dada can move.  13
decimal places is a case of just because you can, should you? 



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I find it hard to believe that GPS measurements can be accurate to 13
decimal places. For decimal degrees that would be .00001mm. 


Using a greater number of significant digits in a calculation than a device
is capable of measuring will just lead to false precision.


Lance Peterson

ISS Systems Developer

City of Tallahassee



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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 9:48 AM
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Subject: shrug-l: Lat/Long Tool


Before ArcGIS 10.2, I had a dynamite tool from the USDA National Forest
Service out of Santa Fe, NM, that could be added to a toolbar and would
allow you to click on a point and it would give you a pop-up with the
latitude & longitude to about 6 or more decimal places in the seconds field
(e.g., 26° 15’ 20.546947”) and decimal degrees to about 13 decimal places.
Of course, it no longer works with 10.2.


Now before you say no one needs that kind of accuracy I say, wrong!  Just
look at any CORS station, which is listed in DMS to 5 decimal places as is
all USGS marker data.  This tool had those locations nailed to all five
decimal places!


The DEP tool is less useful that the ArcGIS readout both of which are 2
decimal places in DMS format (the ArcGIS readout can give higher accuracy if
used in the degrees, decimal minutes format – go figure).


GIS and GPS are getting way more accurate, we need GIS tools that have the
same level of accuracy.


But enough of the preaching, the original question is, does anyone have or
know of a lat/long tool with about 6 decimal accuracy in DMS mode that works
with 10.2?


-- John 




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