gis-l: ArcView 3.2a Intent to Desupport Notice
Clay, Linc
Linc.Clay@dep.state.fl.us
Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:50:10 -0400
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GIS Users,
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This email serves as a reminder that=20
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*** BIS/GIS intends to desupport ArcView 3.2a at the COB on December =
31,
2004. ***
=20
As you know, we have been discussing migrating to ArcGIS since the =
summer of
2001 when ArcGIS 8.x was released and ESRI announced that ArcView 3.x =
was an
end of life product. Many of you have already migrated to ArcGIS and =
are
already enjoying the benefits of it's improved capabilities.
=20
What does "desupport" mean? It means that we will no longer test new =
layers
against ArcView 3.2a. As we add geodatabase layers, users not switching =
to
ArcGIS will not be able to use these layers as ArcView 3.2a cannot =
"digest"
them. We will also no longer support or fix bugs in any of the ArcView =
3.2a
productivity tools and extensions. We will NOT prevent users from =
continuing
the use ArcView 3.2a, NOR will we deactivate the ArcView 3.2a license
manager, productivity tools or extensions.
=20
Below is the technology change timeline that we anticipate that has an =
impact
on ArcView 3.2a use.
=20
12/31/04 - Stop supporting ArcView 3.2a - We will not do anything to =
prevent
folks from using it, all the current extensions will be left as will the
"license manager". However, we will not fix extension bugs and will not =
test
new layers against ArcView 3.2a. ArcView 3.2a does not enable users to =
see
geodatabases and does not enable users to consume the ArcSDE raster =
layers.
=20
Winter 2005 - Migrate to ArcGIS 9.x - Once a stable version is released =
and
tested, we should begin the migration so that we can migrate to ArcSDE =
9.x.
We must migrate the clients (ArcGIS and ArcIMS) before we migrate =
ArcSDE.
The high-use productivity tools like DataMiner and Table2Point will be =
ported
from ArcGIS 8.x to ArcGIS 9.x. The lower-user productivity tools will =
not be
ported as the operations they perform can be accomplished "out of the =
box"
with ArcGIS.
=20
Late Spring / Early Summer 2005 - Migrate to ArcSDE 9.x - ESRI is =
claiming
that ArcView 3.2a will not consume ArcSDE 9.x layers. This means that
ArcView 3.2a users would not be able to use ArcSDE layers of any sort
(standard, geodatabase, nor raster). At this time, we may HAVE to =
disable
DataMiner for ArcView 3.2a since the new ArcSDE may break ArcView 3.2a.
=20
It is expected that ERATools (formerly ERPGIS) will be ported to another
software product prior to 12/31/2004.
=20
Below are the reasons we are desupporting ArcView 3.2a.
=20
1 - ESRI has declared it an end of life product. With each release, =
they
claim it is the last. While it is true they have kept it alive for a =
3.3
release, 3.3 will not allow users to access raster ArcSDE layers and may =
not
support complex geodatabases like NHD.
=20
2 - We have plenty of ArcGIS licenses, so it doesn't make financial =
sense to
maintain two sets of licenses that do the same operations. To upgrade =
3.2a
to 3.3 costs about $1000 per license. We have about 350 licenses. =
Since 3.3
cannot use all the new data types, it doesn't make good financial sense =
to
spend $30,000 or so to upgrade licenses that are duplicative, not as =
capable,
and end of life.
=20
3 - ArcView 3.2a is not built on COM or Java, so it does not enable us =
to
create modular GIS components that can be used for a variety of clients.
=20
4 - For casual data browsing, there are cheaper alternatives like ArcIMS =
and
ArcExplorer.
=20
5 - For publication-quality maps, ArcGIS is superior.
=20
For those of us who love ArcView 3.x and hate to see it go, I'm sorry =
that we
must desupport it, but technology marches on, for good or for ill, and =
we
must keep up.
=20
-Linc
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email serves as a reminder that </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D795274817-13102004> *** BIS/GIS intends to =
desupport=20
ArcView 3.2a at the COB on December 31, 2004. =
***</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D795274817-13102004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D795274817-13102004>As you=20
know, we have been discussing migrating to ArcGIS since the summer of =
2001 when=20
ArcGIS 8.x was released and ESRI announced that ArcView 3.x was an end =
of life=20
product. Many of you have already migrated to ArcGIS and are =
already=20
enjoying the benefits of it's improved capabilities.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D795274817-13102004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D795274817-13102004>What=20
does "desupport" mean? It means that we will no longer test =
new=20
layers against ArcView 3.2a. As we add geodatabase =
layers, users not=20
switching to ArcGIS will not be able to use these layers as ArcView =
3.2a=20
cannot "digest" them. We will also no longer support or fix =
bugs in=20
any of the ArcView 3.2a productivity tools and extensions. =20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D795274817-13102004>We will NOT prevent users from continuing the =
use=20
ArcView 3.2a, NOR will we deactivate the ArcView 3.2a license manager,=20
productivity tools or extensions.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D795274817-13102004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D795274817-13102004>Below=20
is the technology change timeline that we anticipate that has an impact =
on=20
ArcView 3.2a use.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D795274817-13102004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D+0><SPAN class=3D795274817-13102004>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>12<SPAN class=3D795274817-13102004>/</SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D795274817-13102004>31</SPAN>/04 - Stop supporting =
ArcView 3.2a=20
- We will not do anything to prevent folks from using it, all=20
the current extensions will be left as will the "license=20
manager". However, we will not fix extension bugs and will not =
test new=20
layers against ArcView 3.2a. ArcView 3.2a does =
not enable users=20
to see geodatabases and does not enable users to consume the ArcSDE =
raster=20
layers.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2>Winter 2005 - Migrate to ArcGIS 9.x - Once a stable version is =
released=20
and tested, we should begin the migration so that we can migrate to =
ArcSDE=20
9.x. We must migrate the clients (ArcGIS and ArcIMS) before we =
migrate=20
ArcSDE. <SPAN class=3D795274817-13102004>The high-use =
productivity=20
tools like DataMiner and Table2Point will be ported from ArcGIS 8.x to =
ArcGIS=20
9.x. The lower-user productivity tools will not be ported as the=20
operations they perform can be accomplished "out of the box" with=20
ArcGIS.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D011171113-11102004></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D011171113-11102004></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Late=20
Spring / Early Summer 2005 - Migrate to ArcSDE 9.x - ESRI is claiming =
that=20
ArcView 3.2a will not consume ArcSDE 9.x layers. This means that =
ArcView=20
3.2a users would not be able to use ArcSDE layers of any sort (standard, =
geodatabase, nor raster). At this time, we may HAVE to disable =
DataMiner=20
for ArcView 3.2a since the new ArcSDE may break ArcView=20
3.2a.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><SPAN =
class=3D795274817-13102004><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>It is expected that ERATools =
(formerly ERPGIS)=20
will be ported to another software product prior to=20
12/31/2004.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><SPAN =
class=3D795274817-13102004><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><SPAN class=3D795274817-13102004>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Below=20
are the reasons we are desupporting ArcView 3.2a.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>1 -=20
ESRI has declared it an end of life product. With each release, =
they claim=20
it is the last. While it is true they have kept it alive for a 3.3 =
release, 3.3 will not allow users to access raster ArcSDE layers =
and may=20
not support complex geodatabases like NHD.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial><FONT =
color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20
size=3D2>2 - We have plenty of ArcGIS licenses, so it doesn't make =
financial sense=20
to maintain two sets of licenses that do the same operations. To =
upgrade=20
3.2a to 3.3 costs about $1000 per license. We have about 350=20
licenses. Since 3.3 cannot use all the new data types, it doesn't =
make=20
good financial sense to spend $30,000 or so to upgrade licenses =
that are=20
duplicative, not as capable, and end of life<SPAN=20
class=3D795274817-13102004>.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>3=20
- ArcView 3.2a is not built on COM or Java, so it does not enable =
us to=20
create modular GIS components that can be used for a variety of=20
clients.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>4 -=20
For casual data browsing, there are cheaper alternatives like ArcIMS and =
ArcExplorer.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>5 -=20
For publication-quality maps, ArcGIS is superior.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><SPAN =
class=3D795274817-13102004><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>For those<SPAN=20
class=3D556515018-13102004> of </SPAN>us who love ArcView 3.x =
and hate=20
to see it go, I'm sorry that we must desupport it, but technology =
marches on,=20
for good or for ill, and we must keep=20
up.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><SPAN =
class=3D795274817-13102004><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D011171113-11102004><SPAN =
class=3D795274817-13102004><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>-Linc</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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