[Pharmwaste] Response: Disposal kits

David Stitzhal stitzhal@fullcircleenvironmental.com
Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:59:15 -0800 

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<div>I am leaving for India tomorrow morning -- where hazardous waste
concerns take a different form -- so I won't launch into an eloquent
diatribe about how much I agree with Dave Galvin's sentiment about a
solution (no pun intended) other than local government.</div>
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<div>That being said, I agree that home based med destruction kits are
a bad idea, but it does seem that other forms of acid destruction
might play a role at some point if incineration&nbsp; is not an option
in some places.&nbsp; Perhaps a few chemists need to weigh in on the
conversation.</div>
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<div>Thanks for a good dialogue.</div>
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<div>I'll be back in the saddle on March 7th.</div>
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<div>Regards.</div>
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<div>Stitzhal</div>
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<div>At 10:08 AM -0800 2/18/05, Galvin, Dave wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">I agree that some kind of
home med destruction kit would replace one hazard with another.&nbsp;
We are not interested in dealing with a soup of unknown meds dissolved
in a strong acid or base solution.&nbsp; Hmmm, what then to do with
this container...</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">I disagree that the
answer lies in having people bring old meds to the local household
hazardous waste collection service, run by local government.&nbsp;
Those of us in that biz would much prefer a product stewardship model
involving return of waste pharmaceuticals to their place of origin,
either via local retail pharmacies, via pre-paid mailers, or via some
other system that does not put the burden for yet another problematic
wastestream onto local government and onto local ratepayers to pay
for.</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">It is time to come up
with a better, comprehensive solution.</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">-- Dave Galvin</font><br>
<font size="-1">&nbsp;&nbsp; Local Hazardous Waste Management Program
in King County (Seattle, WA)</font><br>
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<font size="-1">From: John Danby [</font><a
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<font size="-1">Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Response: Disposal
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">Some things to
consider:</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">Do you really want to put
containers of hazardous chemicals (that would</font><br>
<font size="-1">&quot;neutralize&quot; pharms) in the hands of the
consumer?&nbsp; Are you not trading one</font><br>
<font size="-1">set of hazards for another?</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">What would the consumer
do with the used container of chemicals/drugs?</font><br>
<font size="-1">Seems like there is still a hazardous waste disposal
issue.&nbsp; Very unlikely</font><br>
<font size="-1">that you would be left with a non-hazardous
result.</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">A better way to handle
this would be to encourage the collection of excess</font><br>
<font size="-1">consumer meds by the local household hazardous waste
entity.</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">John G. Danby, CIH,
CSP</font><br>
<font size="-1">Environmental Compliance Specialist</font><br>
<font size="-1">Occupational Safety</font><br>
<font size="-1">UC Davis Health System</font><br>
<font size="-1">916-734-7329</font><br>
<font size="-1">916-734-7309 (fax)</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">Hi Lucy.</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">I haven't heard of a
consumer product that uses &quot;nasty chemicals&quot;
to</font></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">dissolve unwanted meds.
However, that is an approach that was</font><br>
<font size="-1">discussed among a pharmaceutical task force here in
the Northwest for</font><br>
<font size="-1">dealing with commercial volumes of unwanted pharm's. I
can get you</font><br>
<font size="-1">more details if you want when I return. I am leaving
town after today</font><br>
<font size="-1">for two weeks and am swamped with last minute
details.</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">Cheers.</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">Stitzhal</font><br>
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<font size="-1">David Stitzhal, MRP</font><br>
<font size="-1">President</font><br>
<font size="-1">Full Circle Environmental, Inc.</font><br>
<font size="-1">3111 37th Place South</font><br>
<font size="-1">Seattle, WA 98144</font><br>
<font size="-1">U.S.A.</font><br>
<font size="-1">206-723-0528 phone</font><br>
<font size="-1">206-723-2452 fax</font><br>
<font size="-1">stitzhal@fullcircleenvironmental.com</font><br>
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President<br>
Full Circle Environmental, Inc.<br>
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