[Pharmwaste] Response: Disposal kits

John Danby john.danby@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu
Fri, 18 Feb 2005 10:42:42 -0800


Good point on the HHW issues, Dave.  But our pharmacy folks blanch at the
thought of a take-back problem, from a variety of perspectives.  We'll just
keep batting these issues around the listserv until the light bulb comes
on!

John G. Danby, CIH, CSP
Environmental Compliance Specialist
Occupational Safety
UC Davis Health System
916-734-7329
916-734-7309 (fax)


                                                                           
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I agree that some kind of home med destruction kit would replace one hazard
with another.  We are not interested in dealing with a soup of unknown meds
dissolved in a strong acid or base solution.  Hmmm, what then to do with
this container...


I disagree that the answer lies in having people bring old meds to the
local household hazardous waste collection service, run by local
government.  Those of us in that biz would much prefer a product
stewardship model involving return of waste pharmaceuticals to their place
of origin, either via local retail pharmacies, via pre-paid mailers, or via
some other system that does not put the burden for yet another problematic
wastestream onto local government and onto local ratepayers to pay for.


It is time to come up with a better, comprehensive solution.


-- Dave Galvin
   Local Hazardous Waste Management Program in King County (Seattle, WA)


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From: John Danby [mailto:john.danby@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu]
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Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Response: Disposal kits


Some things to consider:


Do you really want to put containers of hazardous chemicals (that would
"neutralize" pharms) in the hands of the consumer?  Are you not trading one

set of hazards for another?


What would the consumer do with the used container of chemicals/drugs?
Seems like there is still a hazardous waste disposal issue.  Very unlikely
that you would be left with a non-hazardous result.


A better way to handle this would be to encourage the collection of excess
consumer meds by the local household hazardous waste entity.


John G. Danby, CIH, CSP
Environmental Compliance Specialist
Occupational Safety
UC Davis Health System
916-734-7329
916-734-7309 (fax)






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Hi Lucy.


I haven't heard of a consumer product that uses "nasty chemicals" to
dissolve unwanted meds. However, that is an approach that was
discussed among a pharmaceutical task force here in the Northwest for
dealing with commercial volumes of unwanted pharm's. I can get you
more details if you want when I return. I am leaving town after today
for two weeks and am swamped with last minute details.


Cheers.


Stitzhal
--
David Stitzhal, MRP
President
Full Circle Environmental, Inc.
3111 37th Place South
Seattle, WA 98144
U.S.A.
206-723-0528 phone
206-723-2452 fax
stitzhal@fullcircleenvironmental.com
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