[Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, Vol. 6, Issue 3 (RE: Non-incineration techniques fro treatingRx expired products)

Rob.Darcy at deh.sccgov.org Rob.Darcy at deh.sccgov.org
Mon Apr 17 15:59:56 EDT 2006


Sorry, I don't see such a simple solution.  I have a rather basic question.
Who is paying for this?  Who handles the controlled substances?  HHW labor
is usually temp labor and we've already had an attempt at stealing drugs as
it came in.  HHW programs across the nation are becoming the default
collection mechanism for every waste stream that is undesirable in other
agencies' processes.    HHW labor represents 60-65% of our budget, disposal
is cheap.   For those HHW programs supported by solid waste tipping fees,
are the waste water treatment plants contributing to HHW budgets?
Nationwide, HHW programs are inconvenient because of operating hours and
serve a fraction of households in any given jurisdiction.  I don't call
that very functional.  In addition, rural areas have an even more difficult
time providing service.  Instead of defaulting to HHW, exponentially
increase available disposal opportunities by requiring pharmacies, clinics
etc. to take-back unwanted prescriptions and sharps as well.  Think about
Extended Producer Responsibility.  Shouldn't industries that profit from
the sale contribute to the end of life management and relieve local
government of the burden?


Rob D'Arcy, Hazardous Materials Program Manager
Hazardous Waste Recycling and Disposal Program
Department of Environmental Health
County of Santa Clara
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San Jose, CA 95112
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             Catherine Zimmer                                              
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             04/17/2006 08:14          Re: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, 
             AM                        Vol. 6,      Issue 3 (RE:           
                                       Non-incineration   techniques fro   
                                       treatingRx expired products)        
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Not to say I don't support pharm collections.  But, I understand our HHW
collection staff are concerned about safety and security associated with
collecting esp, controlled substances.  I know of at least one
pharmacist who was held up by a  shaking junkie with a gun.

Catherine Zimmer
Health Care Specialist

Minnesota Technical Assistance Program
University of Minnesota
612/624-4635, 800/247-0015
http://www.mntap.umn.edu

Helping Minnesota businesses maximize resource efficiency, prevent
pollution and reduce costs.



Bill Lewry wrote:
>
> To All:
>
> The interest seems high, the solution is appearing simple under the
> existing framework if municipalities and states should so choose.
>
> Return it through HHW's (household hazardous waste Facilities.
>
> How: ??
>
> Relatively simply:
>
>     * Affiliate HHW facilities with law enforcement agencies, either
>       at local, county, state or federal level. (considering what they
>       handle - they should be as matter of course??)
>     * Have them contract with a DEA permitted incinerator, or...
>     * By default, mixing with drum labelled D001 - flammable liquid,
>       NOS - consider the item destroyed in the blending process. It
>       could then be used as a fuel. DEA has the latitude to make this
>       determination should it so choose, as would local states or courts.
>
>
> Problem solved. *To not use the simple, readily available and
> functional would seem to create additional costs and issues for the
> public at large and call into question the reasoning of those creating
> yet another burdensome hoop for citizens at large.* (pharmacies could
> even collect and a milk run be set up whereby the pharmacies could pay
> a nominal fee (part of the cost of doing business) for disposal services.
>
> Inactive hide details for "Stevan Gressitt"
> <gressitt at uninets.net>"Stevan Gressitt" <gressitt at uninets.net>
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>                         *"Stevan Gressitt" <gressitt at uninets.net>*
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>                         04/13/2006 08:06 PM
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> "'Jim Todd'" <jim at wastenotwashington.org>,
> <pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us>
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> cc
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> Subject
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> RE: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, Vol. 6, Issue 3 (RE:
> Non-incineration techniques fro treatingRx expired products)
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>
> I am interested as well. What happened to the incinerator permit for
> Northern California ? Stevan Gressitt, M.D.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> [mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Jim Todd
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:48 PM
> To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> Subject: [Pharmwaste] Pharmwaste Digest, Vol. 6,Issue 3 (RE:
> Non-incineration techniques fro treatingRx expired products)
>
> I share Ahmed Hamza's interest in non-incineration technologies for
> disposing of unwanted pharmaceuticals.  Recycling of plastic medicine
> containers, etc. is also of interest.
>
> I would very much appreciate learning about the list serve mentioned by
> Charlotte A. Smith.
>
> Jim Todd
> Project Manager
> Pharmaceuticals Take-Back Project
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