[Pharmwaste] Do Flush list?

Fri Jan 16 13:05:30 EST 2009

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From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Badrick, Tom
:LPH House
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:32 PM
To: Sue Dayton; Motamedi, Saadi (DEP); Vizzier, Michael; Mindy Rasmussen;
pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Do Flush list?

This will no doubt get me on some Federal watch list or something like that
but.....

Does it not seem incredibly silly to have such a big issue come down to the
DEA wanting to control controlled substances coming back for proper
management when its a safe bet any of us could visit a major city and
purchase some kind of controlled substance from a very uncontrolled source?

yes there are possibly people who work in pharmacy's who may misappropriate
controlled substances but I'd guess thats such an astronomically small number
that the trade offs between damaging the planet versus the possible theft
aren't even close. Its not like they can't already get the same material in a
cleaner form if they wanted it so why is taking some back that may not be all
that safe to take be such a huge new temptation for them?  Because you know
if you were say profiling a population for likely criminal activity, I'd be
focusing immediately on a group that has these traits:  college educated,
hard working, tax paying professionals who work in a field where they
participate actively in caring for the sick...now thats a group of people I'd
immediately assume would be needing close watch.

Unless the DEA has some sudden new program to eradicate all illegal drug
activity, perhaps its time for them to stop being so difficult to work with
on this topic and show some leadership?

Tom Badrick (may not be real name)
Sustainability Coordinator (sounds like a fishy job title)
employer to remain nameless to protect....

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From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us]On Behalf Of Sue Dayton
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:43 AM
To: 'Motamedi, Saadi (DEP)'; 'Vizzier, Michael'; 'Mindy Rasmussen';
pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Do Flush list?

Drinking water wells are not supposed to be drilled or located downhill from
a septic system due to potential contamination; this could be a problem with
many older homes as this was not considered in the "old days." However,
there is the possibility that contamination could occur even with distances
reqired for new wells from private septics. 

Some folks still (I hear) use their personal septage to fertilize their
gardens, especially young, organic farmers here in NC who are a part of the
"back to composting" movement who have composting toilets. Most rural people
with septic systems (like me) are required to get them pumped every so often
and - of course the septage and sludge is then disposed of at the local
WWTP. 

Sue Dayton
Blue Ridge Environmental Defense League
North Carolina Healthy Communities Program
PO BOX 44
Saxapahaw, NC 27340
(336) 525-2003
sdayton at swcp.com

Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
-  Martin Luther King Jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Motamedi,
Saadi (DEP)
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:19 AM
To: Vizzier, Michael; Mindy Rasmussen; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Do Flush list?

It seems that the concept of "Do Flush" does not take into consideration
that many homes and facilities that are not served by a Publicly Owned
Treatment Works (POTW) have septic systems.  Flushing drugs into a
septic system, aside from disrupting the system (i.e. antibiotics can
kill the bacteria that treats the effluent) it can pose a problem to the
groundwater and hence any nearby privately owned water supply wells?  

 _______________________________
Saadi Motamedi 
Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection
Bureau of Waste Prevention / Western Regional Office
436 Dwight Street, Springfield, MA 01103
Phone: 413/755-2131    Fax: 413/784-1149
E-Mail: Saadi.Motamedi at state.ma.us  

-----Original Message-----
From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Vizzier,
Michael
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:53 AM
To: Mindy Rasmussen; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Do Flush list?

Here's a link:
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/drugfact/factsht/proper_disposal.htm
l

-----Original Message-----
From: pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Mindy
Rasmussen
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:47 AM
To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Do Flush list?

Does anyone have a copy of the updated "Do Flush" list from the DEA as
it
relates to certain controls? I understand that number grew from around
12
categories.

Mindy Rasmussen, R.Ph.
Executive Director/CEO
Arizona Pharmacy Alliance
1845 E. Southern Ave.
Tempe, AZ 85282
(480) 838-3385 (office)
(480) 838-3557 (fax)
(480) 221-0204 (NEW CELL #)

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