[Pharmwaste] 5:45 drug waste to packaging ratio

Fri Feb 5 07:26:52 EST 2016

Dear Mr. Angel,
The Yellow Jug Old Drugs comparative economic analysis (jug system without packaging v. box system with packaging) states that a 50 pound box "will collect approximately 5 pounds of drug waste and 45 pounds of recyclable packaging."  I would greatly appreciate it if you would share with us the data source which substantiates the 5:45 ratio that you use to conclude that drug disposal cost of a 50 pound box is $25.00 per pound.  Thank you.
Sincerely,

Thomas O. McAbee
Executive Director
Lloyd Magothy Water Trust, Inc.
1 Bauer Dr.
Southampton, NY 11968

631-353-3435 Office
631-353-3436 FAX

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From: Yellow Jug Old Drugs Account Support [mailto:info at greatlakescleanwater.org] 
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 3:24 PM
To: LloydMagothy WaterTrust <lloydmagothy at gmail.com>
Cc: info at greatlakescleanwater.org; pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: [Pharmwaste] Secure Responsible Drug Act reverse Distributor

Lloyd and Pharmwaste List serve

Thank You for your interest in the Yellow Jug Old Drugs Program. In the operation of the Yellow Jug Old Drugs Program, Great Lakes Clean Water adheres to all regulations of the Secure and Responsible Drug Act that pertain to collection of controlled substances at retail pharmacies, transportation of and ultimate destruction of collected substances.This is a requirement to be licensed by the DEA as a Reverse Distributor.
The regulations do allow for shipping Rx-Waste via Common Carrier. Our program does utilize this method as well.

While some additional financial burden may be incurred to comply with all regulations this in our opinion should not be a deterrent. Doing the right thing is never easy or inexpensive. However we do our best to keep costs as low as we can to encourage more pharmacies to participate. If you believe in our cause donations are always welcome and accepted to help keep our cost to pharmacies as low as possible.
Chris Angel, President GLCW USCW

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Subject: [Pharmwaste] DEA's Two Employee Protocol during Transportation
From:    "LloydMagothy WaterTrust" <lloydmagothy at gmail.com>
Date:    Thu, February 4, 2016 9:52 am
To:      info at greatlakescleanwater.org
         pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
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> Dear Yellow Jug Old Drugs,
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> With regard to the "in person, on-site collection": Does Great Lakes Clean Water Organization (a reverse distributor and the "transporting registrant") utilize the "two employee protocol" as required by the DEA under Section 1317.95(b)(2) and Section 1317.95(c)(2)?  The "two employee protocol"
during transportation is an economic obstacle for registrants to engage in the transportation of sealed inner liners.  Transportation of sealed inner liners is one of the costlier line items in the comparative economic analysis of medication disposal.  Would you comment?>
> Tom McAbee
> Executive Director
> Lloyd Magothy Water Trust, Inc.
> 1 Bauer Drive
> Southampton, NY 11968
> 631-353-3435
> tommcabee at gmail.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yellow Jug Old Drugs Account Support 
> [mailto:info at greatlakescleanwater.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 4:40 PM
> To: pharmwaste at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Amended DEA-Registrations Allowing for 
> Controlled Substance Collection Reverse Distributor
>
> Heidi and all. See below re Reverse Distributor and low cost, effective approach.
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> Great Lakes Clean Water Organization is the newest of the 27 Reverse 
> Distributors in the US.The goal of Great Lakes Clean Water/US Clean 
> Water is to provide the most cost effective Rx-waste collection 
> program in the country to engage a maximum number of people in proper 
> Rx-waste disposal to help
keep our water clean.>
> The mission of GLCW is to promote the collection and disposal of 
> unused/unwanted drugs in a safe and approved manner. This will keep 
> harmful effects of drugs out of ground water, surface water and 
> municipal water systems in Michigan and the Great Lakes region.Proper 
> disposal of unused/unwanted
drugsis also a key weapon in the fight against misuse of prescription drugs.>
> The Yellow Jug Old Drugs program is available in many states. Our standard program cost is $300 per pharmacy unlimited weight. This price includes in person, on-site collection. To help meet the demand for Rx-Waste disposal across the country we are now offering an on-demand, mail-back system.
When a sufficient number of locations are participating in a region we intend to convert to our standard model of in-person, on site collection unlimited weight as this is the most cost effective approach for the program and for participating pharmacies.> Cost Comparison Yellow Jug Old Drugs On-Demand System to A Box System Yellow Jug Old Drugs On-Demand Cost $125 includes all shipping.
> •        1 Jug will collect 25 pounds of drug waste
> •        Collects Only Drug Waste Not Packaging
> •        Packaging including plastic, glass, cardboard, paper is recycled locally by the consumer.
> •        Space saving the jug and lockable container dimensions just 10” x 10” x 12”
> •        Safe and Secure- Rx-Waste is dissolved in gel making them irretrievable and unusable.
> •        Can accept liquids, ointments, creams in any amount. Controlled if location registers with DEA
> •        Safe and Secure Each jug is scanned and tracked. Rx-waste is completely destroyed by incineration
> •        The most cost-effective, space saving, environmentally responsible, safe and secure method
> Cost per pound est. $5.00
>
> A Box system Cost of 1 -50 lb box  est.$150.00
> •        Collects Drugs Waste Plus all Packaging.
> •        Packaging should be recycled and not collected. Only Rx waste should be collected
> •        A 20 gal 50 pound box will contain approx. 1/10 drug waste and 9/10 Packaging
> •        Large box and container 24” x 24” x 36” takes up lots of space. est cost $900-$1000
> •        1 box will collect approx. 5 pounds of drug waste 45 pounds of recyclable packaging.
> •        Amount of liquid medication is limited
> Cost per pound est. $25.00
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