shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe

[Nonie Castro]

TWO MONTHS? 
Wow!!!
We have a two DAY turnaround!
 
How do you do that without losing your mind???


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	From: Kimberly Steele [mailto:ksteele at co.okaloosa.fl.us] 
	Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 2:02 PM
	To: Nonie Castro; Tripp Corbin; Tim Spivey;
shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
	Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe
	
	
	I have been working on the same map for 2 months now trying to
get the annotation to plot legibly and not stepped all over itself, or
just not there because another label superseded it. I do use Mapplex,
but it is a trade off the enhanced features are nice but you sacrifice
map redraw time. I use the pause button but you have to turn it back on
the qc your changes......... even then what you see on screen may look
great but the plot reveals a whole different story..............  I
would LOVE to move on to another project like a month ago. :o)
	 
	Kimberly Steele
	ksteele at co.okaloosa.fl.us
	 

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	From: Nonie Castro [mailto:nonie_castro at coxtarget.com] 
	Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 3:29 PM
	To: Tripp Corbin; Tim Spivey; shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
	Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe
	
	
	Well, THAT is not encouraging!!!


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		From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Tripp Corbin
		Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:53 PM
		To: Tim Spivey; shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
		Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use
in Adobe
		
		
		Labels and/or annotation are the most time consuming
part of any map. I agree. That seems to be true no matter what software
you use. 
		 
		 

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			-----Original Message-----
			From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Tim Spivey
			Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:34 PM
			To: shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
			Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document
for use in Adobe
			
			
			At the risk of preaching to the choir here, with
some knowledge of VB scripting in ArcMap/Editor/Info, you can get a bit
more creative with label placement - but I don't claim to have that
knowledge, only access to the online ESRI user forum and folks who know
some of the solutions. For example, you can force labels into two lines
of text rather than just one.
			 
			Dunno about you, but I seem to spend half my map
production time hand-placing labels.
			 
			Tim
			Tift County GA

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			From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Kyle Schaper
			Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:54 AM
			To: shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
			Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document
for use in Adobe
			
			
			Nonie -
			
			I feel your pain.  How absolutely ridiculous is
it that you cannot move labels at all until you convert to annotation...
Correct me if I am wrong, but once converted, labels are no longer
referencing an attribute table, which from time to time gets updated,
especially when the labels are acre calcs for example.  This means you
have to delete them all and start over, hand placing them one by one
again when in reality you may only need to move a few or only a few were
updated.  Your only solution from ESRI is to purchase another extension-
maplex, or drop thousands for ArcInfo.  What a great way to appease the
customer. 
			
			Aside from the rant, I am with Casey in that we
export to PDF and open that up in Illustrator.  This is a terrible
workflow that forces most work done to have to be re-done if map scale
is changed or new layers are added, which is why we only take that route
sparingly.  Most of the time we put up with the mediocre at best graphic
abilities that Arc has.  (What a pitiful lack of transparency handling
--- c'mon!) 
			
			I have not heard of/tried of Avenza --- thanks
for the tip!
			
			Kyle Schaper
			

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