[Pharmwaste] Response: Disposal kits
Taam, Damon
DTaam@spokanecity.org
Mon, 21 Feb 2005 12:00:17 -0800
Let's all agree that the problem is that pharmaceuticals are getting
into the waterways via current disposal practices. Rather than argue on
what is the best way to tackle the problem and who is going to pay,
let's move forward and pursue all alternative and let the chips fall as
they may. Everyone is responsible to see that these drugs are disposed
of properly and permanently. In my opinion, to make a noticeable dent in
the problem, all the programs we can think of will need to be
implemented. Lots of education and multiple paths of disposal options
will be needed. We need to keep in mind that the person that will
eventually pay is us. =20
Damon M.K. Taam
Spokane Regional Solid Waste System
808 Spokane Falls Blvd.
Spokane, WA 99201
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-----Original Message-----
From: pharmwaste-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:pharmwaste-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of David
Stitzhal
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:59 PM
To: Johnson, Sara; John Danby
Cc: Galvin, Dave; pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us;
pharmwaste-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us
Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Response: Disposal kits
But its already happening with pilots in EPA Region 1, in Vancouver,=20
WA, and a proposed pilot coming into being in the Seattle region.=20
Pilots only, but its a start at getting the pharmacies involved, and=20
ultimately they will pass costs onto the manufacturer and or the=20
consumer -- which is better than the taxpayer.
I'm signing off of this discussion now to be gone for two weeks.
Thanks all.
Stitzhal
At 2:59 PM -0500 2/18/05, Johnson, Sara wrote:
>There is no infrastructure in place, but there should be. This just my
>wish. Won't ever happen under current administration or anytime in the
>future. Too much lobbying and $ being passed around. Plenty of books
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>the subject on how much the pharmaceutical industry pays lobbyists and
>political campaigns, as well as how much money they make.
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>Again, never will happen, just a wish...
>Sara
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>From: John Danby [mailto:john.danby@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu]
>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:53 PM
>To: Johnson, Sara
>Cc: Galvin, Dave; pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us;
>pharmwaste-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us; David Stitzhal
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>That's fine, Sara, but how do they get there? Mail back? Does the
>industry have any plans to initiate/support/subsidize such an effort?
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>John G. Danby, CIH, CSP
>Environmental Compliance Specialist
>Occupational Safety
>UC Davis Health System
>916-734-7329
>916-734-7309 (fax)
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>No, we want take backs at the manufacturing level, not at the pharmacy.
>Sara Johnson NH Pollution Prevention Program
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: pharmwaste-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us
>[mailto:pharmwaste-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of John Danby
>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:43 PM
>To: Galvin, Dave
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>pharmwaste-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us; David Stitzhal
>Subject: RE: [Pharmwaste] Response: Disposal kits
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>Good point on the HHW issues, Dave. But our pharmacy folks blanch at
>the thought of a take-back problem, from a variety of perspectives.
>We'll just keep batting these issues around the listserv until the
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>bulb comes on!
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>John G. Danby, CIH, CSP
>Environmental Compliance Specialist
>Occupational Safety
>UC Davis Health System
>916-734-7329
>916-734-7309 (fax)
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>I agree that some kind of home med destruction kit would replace one
>hazard with another. We are not interested in dealing with a soup of
>unknown meds dissolved in a strong acid or base solution. Hmmm, what
>then to do with this container...
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>I disagree that the answer lies in having people bring old meds to the
>local household hazardous waste collection service, run by local
>government. Those of us in that biz would much prefer a product
>stewardship model involving return of waste pharmaceuticals to their
>place of origin, either via local retail pharmacies, via pre-paid
>mailers, or via some other system that does not put the burden for yet
>another problematic wastestream onto local government and onto local
>ratepayers to pay for.
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>It is time to come up with a better, comprehensive solution.
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>-- Dave Galvin
> Local Hazardous Waste Management Program in King County (Seattle,
WA)
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Danby [mailto:john.danby@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu]
>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:30 AM
>To: David Stitzhal
>Cc: pharmwaste@lists.dep.state.fl.us;
>pharmwaste-admin@lists.dep.state.fl.us
>Subject: Re: [Pharmwaste] Response: Disposal kits
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>Do you really want to put containers of hazardous chemicals (that would
>"neutralize" pharms) in the hands of the consumer? Are you not trading
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>What would the consumer do with the used container of chemicals/drugs?
>Seems like there is still a hazardous waste disposal issue. Very
>unlikely that you would be left with a non-hazardous result.
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>A better way to handle this would be to encourage the collection of
>excess consumer meds by the local household hazardous waste entity.
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>John G. Danby, CIH, CSP
>Environmental Compliance Specialist
>Occupational Safety
>UC Davis Health System
>916-734-7329
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>Hi Lucy.
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>I haven't heard of a consumer product that uses "nasty chemicals" to
>dissolve unwanted meds. However, that is an approach that was discussed
>among a pharmaceutical task force here in the Northwest for dealing
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>commercial volumes of unwanted pharm's. I can get you more details if
>you want when I return. I am leaving town after today for two weeks and
>am swamped with last minute details.
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>Cheers.
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>Stitzhal
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>David Stitzhal, MRP
>President
>Full Circle Environmental, Inc.
>3111 37th Place South
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David Stitzhal, MRP
President
Full Circle Environmental, Inc.
3111 37th Place South
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U.S.A.
206-723-0528 phone
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