shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe Illustrator

Wed Jul 25 10:44:04 EDT 2007

Yeah, all we have is ArcEditor. [sigh]
We are trying to convince the "Powers That Hold The Purse Strings" that
Maplex is a necessity. 
In the meantime - we make do. 
Annotation - for reasons to lengthy to go into here - does not work well
for us. 

Basically - we just have too many labels and too little time. 
We have to crank out plotter sized maps really quickly (2-3 day
turnaround). 
For instance - all of the postal geography for Chicagoland, down to each
postal carrier route. 

I appreciate your feedback about Maplex - maybe someday we'll get it. 
Or someday ESRI will relent and make it part of the core product! 

PS - CAD is fascinating to me - I'd love to learn more about it one day!

________________________________

	From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Tripp Corbin
	Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:28 AM
	To: shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
	Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use in Adobe
Illustrator

	The Maplex does come with ArcInfo automatically. You do have to
purchase it as an extension if you are using ArcView or ArcEditor. I
personally, coming for the CAD world originally, prefer to use
Annotation. I like having the control Annotation allows over labels.
However if you are planning to use labels then I agree Maplex is the way
to go. 

	Tripp Corbin, MCP, CFM, GISP

	Associate Vice President, GIS/Mapping

	ESRI Authorized Instructor

	Keck & Wood, Inc.

	www.keckwood.com <http://www.keckwood.com/> 

	(678) 417-4013

	(678) 417-8785 fax

	Keck & Wood, Inc offers instructor led and virtual training for
ESRI's ArcGIS & ArcView software.
	Please visit www.keckwood.com <http://www.keckwood.com/>  for
more information including a schedule of upcoming classes. 

		-----Original Message-----
		From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] On Behalf Of Nonie Castro
		Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:14 AM
		To: Tim Spivey; shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
		Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use
in Adobe Illustrator

		No - we don't concern ourselves with color exactness
here.
		Close enough is good enough for us - and thank Heaven
for that!
		In fact - a lot of our deliverables are in pdf form, so
it's up to the end user's printer. 

		The thing that causes us the most stress here is LABELS!
		In fact - the comment I made in the Post-Conference
Survey to ESRI is this:

			"I was really disappointed and disheartened that
so much development has gone into the core product, and yet Maplex
remains a separate extension. The message of ESRI seems to be
COMMUNICATING with maps - and yet - what could be more BASIC for
communicating geographic information than the LABELS, fer Heaven's sake?
All the time and effort to add so much depth to 9.2 make me think that
the ESRI product is like a completely loaded, state of the art Lexus.
You know - complete with tinted windows, sunroof, seat warmers, GPS,
satellite radio, just anything and everything any driver would want. But
I have to pay extra for the WHEELS. See? "

		But - anyway - back to the issue at hand...
		No - I wasn't aware of the ArcPress ripper. 
		I'll have to look into that..thanks!

		-----Original Message-----
		From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
<mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us> ] On Behalf Of Tim Spivey
		Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:03 AM
		To: shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
		Subject: RE: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use
in Adobe Illustrator

		Nonie -

		Just out of curiosity, and as a Mac user frustrated by
Windows' color handling, how do you (or DO you) get a closer match
between color on-screen and output? I have to maintain a set of map
books for each printer (Canon, Savin, Epson) because output color
differs so much between devices.

		As to your question, I just work within the limitations
of ArcMap, constantly reminded of its graphics design weaknesses.
		You're probably aware that ArcMap 9.1 (at least) comes
with the ArcPress ripper.

		Tim
		Tift County GA
		(who grew up in Harbor Bluffs)

		-----Original Message-----
		From: shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
		[mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
<mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us> ] On Behalf Of Nonie
Castro
		Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:53 AM
		To: shrug-l at lists.dep.state.fl.us
		Subject: shrug-l: Exporting ArcMap document for use in
Adobe Illustrator

		Hello all - I'm requesting your opinions here.

		We have a need to manipulate our maps graphically beyond
what ArcMap can do.
		(Or - what it can do - software that is specifically for
graphics can do better/faster/more efficiently)

		Do  any of the rest of you use something besides an ESRI
product to manipulate your maps?
		If so - what?

		If you have a graphics program - do you then use any
other software, like the Avenza products - as a "bridge" between the
two?

		Thank you,
		Nonie Castro
		GIS Specialist
		Cox Target Media
		8605 Largo Lakes Blvd
		Largo, FL 33773
		727-399-3000 x3246
		www.coxtarget.com
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