shrug-l: New under water ships down under
Brian May
bmay at mapwise.com
Wed Feb 1 14:39:44 EST 2012
What about OpenStreetMap? Personally, I think its a great compliment to
local government GIS. When I edit OpenStreetMap in different parts of
FL, I always refer to local govmt GIS data. The tide could turn pretty
quickly against Google Maps if more local govmt GIS folks started
contributing to OpenStreetMap.
Brian May
MapWise Inc.
On 2/1/2012 2:24 PM, Jim Robeson wrote:
>
> Jacob makes an excellent point. I hear of a lot of pressure for
> groups and individuals who want to replace GIS with Google. They
> just don't know that they are going to receive in turn for their cost
> savings.
>
> Regards,
>
> /Jim Robeson/
>
> //
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> *From:*shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> [mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] *On Behalf Of *Jacob Coble
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 01, 2012 1:33 PM
> *To:* Bendis, Joe; Jim at gpserv.com; SHRUG; Sandell, Keith
> *Subject:* RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under
>
> Seriously, maybe whenever anyone runs across something this bad in
> Google, they should share it with this group. We could have a few
> examples to use whenever a bean counter says, "We don't need GIS,
> Google is good enough." Can you imagine several more examples like the
> one Joe sent? An accurate GIS map made with good local data vs. a
> flawed Google map of the same area.
>
> Maybe this could be a S.H.R.U.G. poster contest - each poster would
> feature a quality GIS map on one half and an inaccurate Google map of
> the same area on the other half. What if we had several such posters,
> the PDF files could be shared. Anytime people needed to describe to
> the powers that be the value of their GIS program, they could print
> these posters and show them (even if the poster is not of their
> locality - the point is to show that Google is not sufficient for many
> uses). And it is not only imagery problems - we all have seen problems
> in the Google streets vs. local data. A picture is worth a thousand words.
>
>
> *Jacob Coble, GISP*
>
> GIS Specialist II
> Tallahassee-Leon County GIS
> Leon County Courthouse, Level P-3
> 301 S. Monroe St.
> Tallahassee, FL 32301
> PH (850) 606-5504
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> coblej at leoncountyfl.gov
> www.tlcgis.org
>
> >>> "Joe Bendis" <jbendis at sgrc.us> 2/1/2012 1:14 PM >>>
>
> An NEVER try to navigate "Local" waters either Jim (Lanark Village)
> just south of Tallahassee, FL.
>
> The island locally know as Bird Island or Lanark Reef is almost
> completely missing from Google
>
> GoogleEarth_Image.jpg
>
> Same area with Bing from a GIS project Basemap
>
> lanarkreef.jpg
>
> /Joseph E. Bendis///
>
> /VALOR GIS Specialist/
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> /jbendis at sgrc.us <mailto:jbendis at sgrdc.com>///
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> *From:*shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> [mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] *On Behalf Of *Keith
> Sandell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:59 PM
> *To:* Jim at gpserv.com; SHRUG
> *Subject:* RE: shrug-l: New under water ships down under
>
> Have they sued Google yet for sinking their ships?
>
> Because as we all know Google is always "right" and that's why we
> don't need GIS people. (you can't hear the extreme sarcasm in my
> voice, but it's there trust me)
>
> Reminds me of a time when a Google sales person was pitching some of
> their products to me and repeatedly told me that with "our" products
> you don't need GIS people, yea sign me up for that...
>
> Good example to keep around the next time management or politicians
> say, "Why do we need you, we have Google!"
>
> They just might sink you ship!
>
> Thanks for sharing Jim.
>
> *Keith Sandell, MBA*
>
> GIS Manager, Corporate Analytics
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> *From:*shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> [mailto:shrug-l-bounces at lists.dep.state.fl.us] *On Behalf Of *Jim Robeson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 01, 2012 12:37 PM
> *To:* 'SHRUG'
> *Subject:* shrug-l: New under water ships down under
>
> Interesting things afoot in Sydney harbor. The Australians have new
> submergible ships. That is how it appears in Google Earth. Nice
> job guys!!! Thought The GIS community might find this humorous.
>
> Regards,
>
> /Jim Robeson/
>
> //
>
> *James M. Robeson*
>
> Mapping/GIS Sales, Trimble Certified Trainer
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