shrug-l: We need your help crowdsourcing GIS data

[Rick Labs]

Yosem,

I'm not experienced in crowdsourcing, and have no idea what resources 
might be available to you? I looked up 
https://centropr.hunter.cuny.edu/mapping-puerto-rico but could not find 
much on what is envisioned for mapping Puerto Rico? Somehow the vision 
of kids on bicycles with GPS enabled cell phones doing tracking runs 
popped into my mind, with parents supervising? Surely that isn't the case?

Wanted to give you some top of the mind "thoughtstarter" resources.

One of the best "industries" PR has to offer is *tourism*, so I'd be 
making every effort to capture all "digital assets" that might directly 
or indirectly support that activity (including rebuilding the basic 
tourism /infrastructure/). Fantastic photographs of everything of 
interest of course could be a real asset. Not just promotional photos - 
photos of what needs to be fixed, with precise geo coordinates.

I would also encourage your group to study the GIS needs of the major 
industries (outside of Tourism) to insure their needs for GIS type data 
are met. Rebuilding the local economy will help everything.

Want to encourage you to think about getting the very most return on all 
the effort it will take to "drive every street" if you are envisioning 
that level of effort. If you have a crowd of volunteer drivers, it would 
also be great to capture 360 views in sufficient resolution to allow 
driver-less cars. (see images below as thoughstarters).

*Resources:*

  * Crowd soured maps of the entire world and how to do it:
    https://www.openstreetmap.org
  * Free GIS software: https://qgis.org/en/site/
  * Names to geo locations: https://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/ (this
    is more important than you might originally think. Its names to
    points, names to polygons, historical names, local names, names
    translated into different languages, etc., etc. street names (and
    numbers) to geo locations, Names to WikiPedia articles that contain
    lat/lon points falling in PR (see WikiData).
  * Can you get the overhead aerial photos from right after the storm?
    (likely to be in excellent resolution, and very current. )
  * Is any LiDar imagery available? Both would be good sources.
  * Is there a repository of prior maps for each county? Get all the
    digital maps and overlays up front... No high quality repository
    available? Audit and create one.

*360 degree photographs (including LiDar)
*Cameras*: *https://developers.google.com/streetview/ready/specs-prograde
Object awareness: https://www.mapillary.com (may have ideas and may or 
may not be "open source"? see below for the list of "objects" they try 
to parse out of the imaging data). There are many objects of interest to 
the  driver-less car. Those objects need to be compared with real time 
imagery to enable self driving cars.

Much of that "driver-less car" detail would also be of great value in 
planning and budgeting infrastructure replacements.

Wondering out loud - would the U.S. support any part of this mapping 
project of yours? Provide technical help? Gear? Who "in the crowd" can 
write grant proposals, make phone calls, filter through to people who 
can hand you resources?

  * USGS??
  * Army core of engineers?
  * Military?
  * Census / Tiger developers?

How about your various Counties "mapping" data sources

  * Public Works (streets, traffic controls, transportation)
  * Utilities (water, sewer, phone, cable TV, internet, electric, gas,
    garbage,....)
  * Tax Accessory (boundary files of properties, building information)
  * Fire, Police, Ambulance?
  * Post Office? (postal address to geo coordinates of building)
  * Survey systems used in PR? Database of precise surveyor's reference
    points, etc.

Hope these are a few tips on where you might start. Others on this list 
have much better expertise in their respective areas. Very good for 
troubleshooting and problem solving when you get to specifics.

Rick



Roof mount cameras might be borrowed from Google?


Tom Tom is another possible provider of camera/gps  equipment

*What are you trying to capture? *
One object of 360 mapping photographs is to support driver-less cars. 
The following items need to be AUTOMATICALLY identified on images.(along 
with their boundaries)

construction--flat--rail-track
construction--flat--road
construction--flat--road-shoulder
construction--flat--service-lane
construction--flat--sidewalk
construction--flat--traffic-island
construction--barrier--curb
construction--barrier--fence
construction--barrier--guard-rail
construction--barrier--other-barrier
construction--barrier--separator
nature--snow
nature--vegetation
nature--water
construction--flat--bike-lane
construction--flat--curb-cut
marking--continuous--dashed
marking--continuous--solid
void--car-mount
void--dynamic
void--ego-vehicle
void--ground
void--static
construction--flat--bike-lane
construction--flat--crosswalk-plain
construction--flat--curb-cut
construction--flat--parking
construction--flat--pedestrian-area
construction--flat--rail-track
construction--flat--road
construction--flat--road-shoulder
construction--flat--service-lane
construction--flat--sidewalk
construction--flat--traffic-island
construction--barrier--curb
construction--barrier--fence
construction--barrier--guard-rail
construction--barrier--other-barrier
construction--barrier--separator
construction--barrier--wall
construction--structure--bridge
construction--structure--building
construction--structure--garage
construction--structure--tunnel
marking--continuous--dashed
marking--continuous--solid
marking--discrete--crosswalk-zebra
marking--discrete--other-marking
marking--discrete--stop-line
marking--discrete--text
nature--beach
nature--desert
nature--mountain
nature--sand
nature--sky
nature--snow
nature--terrain
nature--vegetation
nature--water
human--person
human--rider--bicyclist
human--rider--motorcyclist
human--rider--other-rider
animal--bird
animal--ground-animal
object--banner
object--bench
object--bike-rack
object--billboard
object--catch-basin
object--cctv-camera
object--fire-hydrant
object--junction-box
object--mailbox
object--manhole
object--parking-meter
object--phone-booth
object--pothole
object--ramp
object--street-light
object--support--pole
object--support--traffic-sign-frame
object--support--utility-pole
object--traffic-cone
object--traffic-light--cyclists
object--traffic-light--general-upright-front
object--traffic-light--general-upright-side
object--traffic-light--general-upright-back
object--traffic-light--general-horizontal-front
object--traffic-light--general-horizontal-side
object--traffic-light--general-horizontal-back
object--traffic-light--other-traffic-light
object--traffic-light--pedestrians
object--traffic-light--temporary
object--traffic-sign--front
object--traffic-sign--back
object--traffic-sign--direction-front
object--traffic-sign--direction-back
object--traffic-sign--temporary-front
object--traffic-sign--temporary-back
object--traffic-sign--information-parking
object--trash-can
object--vehicle--bicycle
object--vehicle--boat
object--vehicle--bus
object--vehicle--car
object--vehicle--caravan
object--vehicle--motorcycle
object--vehicle--on-rails
object--vehicle--other-vehicle
object--vehicle--trailer
object--vehicle--truck
object--vehicle--wheeled-slow
object--water-valve
object--wire-group



On 11/11/2018 9:21 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Do you or someone you know have expertise crowdsourcing GIS data?
>
> I'm currently advising Hunter College's Center for Puerto Rican 
> Studies ("Centro") on its GIS mapping efforts 
> <https://centropr.hunter.cuny.edu/events-news/rebuild-puerto-rico/data-hub> in 
> Puerto Rico. Centro is one of just a handful of groups using GIS 
> mapping to help Puerto Rico.
>
> Since Hurricane Maria's landfall in Puerto Rico, Centro's GIS mapping 
> has shifted from relief to recovery and reconstruction. To accelerate 
> its efforts, Centro would like to create a crowdsourcing platform for 
> gathering GIS data.
>
> I've suggested to Centro to connect with developers who have expertise 
> in crowdsourcing GIS data so as to avoid reinventing the wheel. To 
> this end, should you or someone you know have expertise developing 
> crowdsourcing platforms for gathering GIS data, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Yosem
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> SHRUG-L mailing list
> SHRUG-L at lists.dep.state.fl.us
> http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/mailman/listinfo/shrug-l

-- 
Richard J. Labs, CFA, CPA
CL&B Capital Management, LLC
Phone: 315-637-0915
E-mail (preferred for efficiency): rick at clbcm.com
Mailing address: 408B Holiday Harbour, Canandaigua, NY 14424

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/pipermail/shrug-l/attachments/20181113/16be7846/attachment-0001.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: diemgkeojdjgkged.png
Type: image/png
Size: 369104 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/pipermail/shrug-l/attachments/20181113/16be7846/attachment-0002.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: bfmehabmaaakkagl.png
Type: image/png
Size: 459373 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://lists.dep.state.fl.us/pipermail/shrug-l/attachments/20181113/16be7846/attachment-0003.png>